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Co-op Radio CJLY Nelson,
B.C. Canada November
12, 2009 Title:
The California Drought and Fox News Producer/Host - Jon Steinman Transcript - Lisa Tang Jon Steinman: And welcome to Deconstructing Dinner
produced in Nelson, British Columbia at Kootenay Co-op Radio CJLY. This show is
heard weekly on radio stations around the world including KRBS Radio Birdstreet 107.1 FM Oroville, California. I'm Jon Steinman.
Today,
we travel to the state of California where 50% of all fresh fruits and
vegetables consumed in Canada and the United States are produced. Beyond
fresh produce, California is also a major producer of dairy, olives and
nuts, and the list of foods goes on. But
how secure is this reliance we all have on Californian food, certainly
for most Canadians and Americans, the distance food is traveling from
California is almost laughable. But food miles aside, California has
just endured its 3rd year of drought leaving an
already fragile agricultural and seafood economy much more susceptible. On
today's episode we learn about the challenges facing California's water supply
and how this might impact food production. Lending their voice to the
show will be Pete Lucero of the United States Department of the Interior's
Bureau of Reclamation, we'll hear from Doug Obegi of
the Natural Resources Defense Council and from Zeke Grader of the Institute for
Fisheries Resources. And
as we often do here on the show, we'll also be spending some notable
time deconstructing the media and how some of America's largest
networks and newspapers are communicating a pretty misleading and inaccurate
message about this drought and its impacts on Californian farmers. increase
music and fade out the Association of
California Water Agencies ad:
Two-thirds of California residents had no real idea where their tap water comes
from, and they are largely unaware of the growing crisis affecting water
supplies in our state. The Association of California Water Agencies is working
to change that through its state-wide awareness program. (sound of a water drop) California's water
-- a crisis we can't ignore. JS: And that is just one example of
the many awareness campaigns underway throughout the state to alert
Californians to this water crisis. That one being a segment of audio from a
video produced by the Association of California Water Agencies, and this next
one, from another video produced by Paul Pfotenhauer
for the University of California at Davis. the University of
California at Davis ad:
California has always been thirsty for water. There simply isn't enough to go
around. Northern California has it, the South and the Central Valley need it,
and the fish and wildlife depend on it. Three years of drought in California
has been costing California dearly. Richard Howitt,
an Agriculture Resource Economist, says water restrictions could mean up to 800
million dollars in lost income and force 25,000 people out of work in the San Joaquin and Tulare Valleys this year. Richard Howitt: It's devastating
for the life of market in the valley. This is a labour
market that doesn't have much leeway because they've been hit with a
construction slowdown for other sorts of manual labour
jobs, and they are really reliant on these farm jobs, particularly in these
small communities. the
U of C at Davis ad:
Despite spring rains, California remains mired in a serious drought. Woman: Over the last three years the runoff has very much
below normal. And the runoff is sort of the best indicator of where we are at
in terms of drought. It's not just the rain and snow but, over a whole year,
how much we actually get in those river basins. And two years ago, the water
here had 53 percent of normal, last year 58 percent of normal runoff, and our
projection for this year is only 70 percent of normal. So we're not working our
way out of that hole. JS: Now certainly the magnitude of this third
year of drought in California is significant and has mobilized all levels of
government and water service agencies to respond with assertive campaigns and
action. But there has also been a response by some American media that,
as far as Deconstructing Dinner is concerned, requires some critical
attention. And of those media who have chosen to cover California's drought and
its impact on agriculture, is Fox News alongside their parent company News
Corporation and their other media outlets - most notably, the Wall Street
Journal. Now
Canadian listeners might not be as familiar as our American listeners with the
aggressive campaigning that Fox News has taken on since President Barack Obama was elected into
office. There's really no question that Fox News is committed to doing whatever
it possibly can to undermine the current presidency and in some cases have
become full-on activists; helping organize and advocate protests,
rallies and campaigns all of which are designed to challenge the
President and any federal decision. But within this dramatic change of tone at
Fox News has been the blatant politicizing of issues that in many cases has Fox
grasping with such intensity, that many gaping holes in their logic have
presented themselves for some overdue deconstructing. While many North
Americans might not view Fox News as "fair and balanced" as they purport to be,
the fact of the matter is there are many Americans who receive the bulk
of their information from this network and with the Wall Street Journal
now being owned by Fox's parent company, it's no surprise that the Wall
Street Journal has also been communicating the same questionable
messages about the California drought. And
so according to Sean Hannity - a daily commentator on
Fox News and a popular voice on the radio through his nationally-syndicated
show, the California drought and its economic impacts on farmers is not
the fault of three years of low run-off but instead, is the fault of President Barack Obama - an interesting
approach at politicizing a multi-faceted issue. Sean Hannity: Between environmentalists and
whether or not the farmers in the Central Valley here have water, ladies and
gentlemen, this has become a dustbowl. And we came here tonight with a message
for Washington and President Barack Obama. Please for the sake of the farmers, where
unemployment is now near 40 percent, please turn this water on, now! President Barack Obama:
Hope is in the future. We are hungry for change. We will transform this
country. We are ready to believe again! Sean Hannity (music playing in background): All
of those promises, all of that hope, and yet in the San Joaquin Valley of California, hope doesn't spring eternal. This land was once
considered the bread basket of America. Roughly 12 percent of our nation's
agricultural output came from this valley between Bakersfield and Sacramento,
but everything has now changed. (sound of dripping water) Today, their water is gone,
shut off by the government. And the same people whose cheers of hope and change
echoed from this Valley all the way to Washington had been abandoned in favour of a fish barely large enough to fit in the palm of
your hand. The scene here today is more reminiscent of the dustbowl of the
1930s. Farms that once fed the nation are barren. The parched and cracked
earth, it's right out of the grapes of wrath. JS: Sean Hannity
of Fox News from September 2009. Now we could spend the next hour
deconstructing the music of that segment, and the ecclesiastical tone of
that production, but as we've heard, according to Fox News the drought in
California is the result of the "water being shut off by the federal
government." We also heard Sean Hannity refer to
"environmentalists" and a fish as also being the culprits of the
drought, and what Hannity is referring to is
the delta smelt, a fish listed as an endangered species. In the past few years
the Natural Resources Defense Council (the NRDC) has been at the forefront of
ensuring that the fish be protected and these efforts have resulted in a
reduction in the amount of water being received by some Californian farmers. Lending
his voice to Deconstructing Dinner is the NRDC's Doug
Obegi - a Staff Attorney of their Western Water
Project. Doug spoke to us from San Francisco. Doug Obegi: The Natural Resources Defense Council has been one
of the most prominent environmental groups in the United States for several
decades now. And for at least the past 15 or 20 years, we really had a focus on
water issues in California. Looking particularly at California's Bay-Delta
Estuary, which is the hub of the water export system in California that allows
water to be exported from Northern California, where most of the rainfall and
snowfall occurs to Central California and Southern California, which are much
more arid. However, the water supply system in the delta also affects the flows
of our two largest rivers, the San Joaquin and Sacramento, which come together
in the delta and thus affect our salmon and other native fish species. So, part
of the challenge for the past 20 years that NRDC has been very engaged in is
how to balance the needs for water exports with the needs to sustain our native
plants and animals in the delta. JS: The history of California's water
distribution system is a fascinating one and also necessary to understand in
order to critically analyze the message that Fox News is spreading to its
American viewers. Doug Obegi: California has to export a fair amount of water
from the delta to San Joaquin Valley and to Southern California because there
is very little rainfall in Southern California. Most of the rain and the snow
occurs in the North and flows through the Sacramento or San Joaquin rivers down
to the delta. Several decades ago, California started designing a massive
engineering program, one of the largest, if not the very largest, water
diversion projects in the world that enable us to move approximately six
million acre feed of water, enough water to cover an acre of land with a foot
deep water to the farms and cities in Southern and Central California. And this
water supply system has done great wonders in expanding the area of the state
that can be developed but it also had significant adverse impacts on salmon
fisheries and other fisheries in the State. JS: Now into its third year of drought,
Californians are waking up to the excessive amounts of water that have
historically been allocated for the agricultural lands of the Central Valley.
With 41 percent of water destined for agriculture and 11 percent destined for
municipal purposes that leaves 48 percent of all available water to
maintain natural ecosystems. Of the wildlife impacted by this and other human
impacts on the natural environment, we find the delta smelt - an almost
translucent 2-3 inch fish that is endemic to the Sacramento Delta. The delta
smelt was listed in 1993 as threatened under the California Endangered
Species Act and Federal Endangered Species Act. In 2008, the California Fish
and Game Commission uplisted the delta smelt to endangered.
Also on the list of endangered species in the delta is Chinook salmon. The
Natural Resources Defense Council has taken an active role to ensure that the
critical state of these fish be protected. Doug Obegi: Delta smelt and winter run Chinook salmon and
spring run Chinook salmon were all listed as threatened or endangered species
back in the 1990s. And in 1992, NRDC and other organizations were very
instrumental in passing federal legislations called the Central Valley Project
Improvement Act, which was intended to improve conditions in the delta for
these native fish species, and they made a federal policy of making
environmental protection in the delta more important and equally important was
water deliveries. So back in the early 90s, water diversions, water exports
from the delta were reduced, and we saw populations of salmon rebound, which
meant that our salmon fisheries were really healthy for several years. However,
in the late 1990s and over the last decade or so, water exports from the delta
steadily crept up, and our populations of salmon and delta smelt and other fish
species in the delta that either live in the delta or migrated to the delta all
plummeted to historic lows. So in 2004 and 2005, NRDC as part of the coalition
of sport commercial fishing groups, conservation groups, and the Winnemem Wintu tribe, a Native
American tribe in Northern California, filed suit over the plan to allow even
more exports of water from the delta fearing that it will jeopardize the future
of the salmon fisheries and indeed the existence of salmon and other native
fish. We won those cases in 2007 and 2008, and the federal courts ordered
reductions in water exports from those historically high levels that we saw in
the early part of this decade. JS: Now those reductions in water export
levels ordered by the federal court have had impacts on the amount of
water available to some farmers in the San Joaquin Valley of California. As
mentioned and heard earlier, this court order and its resulting impact caught
the attention of Fox News and in particular popular commentator Sean Hannity. And while Deconstructing Dinner would normally
applaud any media covering the plight of farmers, this particular coverage
requires some scrutiny, because instead of looking at the whole picture
of what has contributed to these agricultural water shortages such as the
natural drought itself, or the state of the agricultural economy, or the
out-of-date water distribution system, Sean Hannity
has instead turned this drought into a political issue and insists that
the water shortages incurred by these farmers are solely, the
fault of the Federal Government and President Barack Obama. Sean Hannity: Farmers in California are losing
their land, their crops, and their livelihood, all because of a 2-inch fish. Ainsley Earhardt brings us this
special investigation. Ainsley Earhardt: California's
Central Valley is considered by many to be the richest and the most productive
farmland in the nation. But this land is being threatened by the small,
harmless, looking minnow called the delta smelt. Recently, it is landed on the
endangered species list, prompting a federal court to shut down vital pumps to
farmers to help preserve it. Sarah Woolf is a spokesperson for the Westlands Water District, a company that oversees the
manmade complicated water delivery system in the Central Valley. Ainsley Earhardt: How
many years has this been the process? Sarah Woolf: It
was completed in 1968. Ainsley Earhardt:
Okay, so decades. Sarah Woolf:
Yes. Ainsley Earhardt: All
the farmers along all this land, that's two-thirds of the state of California
have depended on water to grow their crops. But the water is turned off here so
none of these farmers can expect to get any water. Sarah Woolf: That's
correct. Ainsley Earhardt: The
pumps were turned off after environmentalists won a federal court case, but at
least one lawmaker in Washington is fighting back. Devin Nunes: You're spending one trillion dollars, and you won't
put in what provision it would create 60,000 jobs. This is an insult to my
constituency. What we have today is a manmade drought brought on
by laws, passed by the Congress, to where we are taking the bread basket of the
world, and starving it of water to save little fish which is outrageous. JS: That's Republican Congressman Devin Nunes heard on Sean Hannity's
show on Fox News. Devin Nunes has actively joined in
the fight to overturn the ruling that was enacted to protect the delta
smelt. Like Fox News, Nunes has been also spreading
the message that the resulting water reductions are the sole reason for the
drought and has ignored the other factors that need to also be considered. The
tagline of the drought affecting farmers as being "man-made" has also been used
on Fox News and their sister newspaper The Wall Street Journal. On September 2nd,
2009, the Wall Street Journal published an articled titled "California's
Man-Made Drought - The Green War Against San Joaquin Valley Farmers." The web
page for that article was also titled, "EPA regulations cause drought in
California." Now
this very narrow and inaccurate message being communicated by these
influential American media is in need of some critical deconstructing. And so
Deconstructing Dinner invited Pete Lucero onto the show. Pete is the Public
Affairs Officer of the Bureau of Reclamation - an agency of the United States
Department of the Interior. The Bureau is in the 17 western states and the goal
of reclamation is to provide water and power to those states. As for
California, the Bureau operates 20 dams and reservoirs to help provide and
deliver water for agriculture, urban use and maintaining natural habitat. Pete
Lucero spoke to Deconstructing Dinner from his Sacramento office and he
responds to this message that the drought affecting farmers in the San Joaquin
Valley is a "regulatory one." Pete Lucero: This
drought that we're under right now has been three years in the making. We're
three years of critically dry years in California, which has caused reduction
or depletion of the waters we have in storage. That storage water resides
typically in our reservoirs and carries over year to year. Because of the lack
of rainfall and run-off over the last two or three years, we've had to dip into
our storage water to the point where our storage capacity, our storage
availability beginning of 2009 was practically zero. We just had a really,
really low carry-over year, and because 2009 was another dry year, we've had to
try to compensate or we've had to try to meet the competing needs for water in
California with low storage. Now, the regulatory drought issue comes in where
we also have had some reduction in available water simply because we have to
protect, but through the Endangered Species Protection Act, the delta smelt,
and salmon, and other endangered species. We had to provide water to assure
that these species continue to survive. And that's part of our charge as well,
so we've a lot of competing interest for the water. The issue of regulatory
drought is one that some have been saying. The larger reason for why we
are not delivering water some will say is because of the Environmental Species
Act Regulations. That's not in fact the truth. Probably one quarter of the
water that wasn't delivered in 2009 was the result of the Endangered Species
Act. But fully three quarters of the water that may not have been fully
delivered in 2009 over normal years was the result of the fact that we just
didn't have enough water in the system. JS: Pete Lucero of the US Bureau of
Reclamation. Now the one number that Pete mentions and which requires
some closer attention is the one-quarter figure - that is that one-quarter of
the water not being received by farmers in the San Joaquin valley is as
a result of these endangered species protections. The other three-quarters of
that water shortage? Well, from other factors having nothing to do with
the federal court order - most notably, the actual drought. But that
again, has not prevented Fox News from using that one-quarter water
reduction as a political campaign to try and undermine the Federal Government
and President Barack Obama. Ainsley
Earhardt: Sad story, you're one of the only ones
covering this too, Sean. This is San Joaquin Valley. We are about three hours
north of L.A. It's called the bread basket of America because most of the
fruits and vegetables and nuts that you're buying in the grocery store are
grown here in this area. But the controversy here is 30-40 thousand farmers and
workers out here have lost their jobs, and it's all because of that 2-inch
minnow that you were mentioning, Sean. JS: All because of that 2-inch minnow says
Fox News Ainsley Earhardt
of the drought facing California farmers. Now
anyone who watches Fox News on a regular basis is likely aware as I know we are
at Deconstructing Dinner of the parade of criticism coming out of that network
of President Barack Obama.
It seems every news story can somehow be turned into the President's fault. The
recent fatal shooting at an army base in Ft. Hood, Texas as an example, is,
according to Sean Hannity, also the fault of the
President. soundbite JS: This is Deconstructing Dinner. On
today's episode we're exploring the severe drought that has hit California and
having now endured a third year of it, food production in some areas is
being notably affected. But as is a secondary focus of the show today, American
media like Fox News and the Wall Street Journal are communicating a very
single-issue and thereby misleading story, apparently as a tool to use
this drought politically, as an attack on the U.S. government and more
specifically, President Barack Obama
- who has become an ongoing target of the Fox News channel. Now
it's not new for Deconstructing Dinner to be critical of the media, after all
this show was formed in an effort to provide a more holistic picture of the
most critical issues facing our food supply. But turning our attention to Fox
News carries a different level of examination than usual. You see much of Fox
News is not news at all, and is instead a heavily focused parade of
commentators who refer to themselves as "news." The most noticeable effort, the
24-hour-a-day Fox News logo spinning in the bottom left-hand corner of the
screen, signaling to their viewers that what they are watching is indeed
"news." The
fictitious nature of Fox even goes so far as to use old video footage of
rallies to outright lie to their viewers of how many people attended a more
recent rally. Just last week on November 5th, as an example, Fox
News was caught using footage from a larger September rally on Capitol Hill and
labelling it as the November
protest to Health Care Reform which was significantly of a smaller turnout. But
as for their drought coverage, in their efforts to politicize that, Fox News
alongside Republican Congressman Devin Nunes have
used the argument that this drought is only about one thing, farmers versus
fish. In focus is the 2007 and 2008 Federal Court order requiring reductions in
water exports to the San Joaquin Valley to protect the endangered delta smelt.
This year, similar protections were issued for the endangered Chinook salmon.
With groups like the Natural Resources Defense Council and fisheries
organizations being at the forefront of ensuring these protections are in
place, Fox News has used this farmers versus fish argument to communicate to
their audience that the issue is as simple as supporting one group versus the
other. Sean
Hannity: Joining
us now is our own Ainsley Earhardt.
I can't believe this because of this little fish, as many as 80,000 people are
going to lose jobs. They're shutting off water for farms that have been there,
what, generations? Ainsley Earhardt:
Generations, third generation farmers, Sean. Their grandfathers were out there;
blood, sweat, and tears making sure these crops are going to grow so you and I
would have fruits and vegetables. And they're shutting it down because they
think the minnow could get caught or does get caught in the pumps. So now they're
pumping the water out in the Pacific Ocean instead of streaming it down to the
farmers who live in the Valley. Sean
Hannity: And they're all losing their jobs. Ainsley Earhardt:
They're all losing their jobs. We're talking about Representative Nunes says up to 80,000 jobs could be lost, so, we're
talking about lots of jobs. Well, what about the food bank? The line was
wrapped around the block because people don't have food. Sean Hannity: And
all they've got to do is turn the water back on. Ainsley Earhardt: Right.
That's all they have to do. Sean Hannity: That's
crazy. Ainsley Earhardt: And
now we're going to have to get our fruits and vegetables from other countries,
Mexico and from elsewhere. Sean Hannity: Might
as well get our oil and everything else. I tell you this is madness. This is
madness. Ainsley Earhardt: It's
fish versus families. Sean Hannity: It
really is. Ainsley Earhardt:
They're choosing the fish. Sean Hannity:
They're choosing the fish. 2-inch fish. Ainsley Earhardt: 2-inch
minnow. Sean Hannity: Exactly.
JS:
Sean Hannity and Ainsley
Earhardt of Fox News. Invited to respond to these Fish versus
Farmers messages is again, the Natural Resources Defense Council's Doug Obegi. Doug Obegi: I think the fish versus
people myth, it really is a myth. When you look at what has happened as a
result of the increased water export from the delta, California's salmon
fisheries has been closed for the first time in the State's history for the
past two years. We simply didn't have enough salmon coming back. Every year we
release about 32 million salmon smelts from hatcheries as well as native
production. And historically, we had a million or 2 million salmon come into
the Central Valley to spawn each year. This past year we had 66,000 fish
return, and as a result we had the fishery completely closed, which has cost
the state several thousand jobs and hundreds of millions of dollars in economic
income. It also affects fisheries off of Oregon because Oregon gets about half
of their fish from the Central Valley. It's really the mainstay of many fishing
communities up and down the coast. And so, whether it's delta farmers, farmers
in the delta who support these Endangered Species Act protections, because it
protects water quality and ensures there is adequate water in the delta for
them to use, whether it's salmon fishermen from Northern California, from
Central California, coastlines, or recreational fishermen in the Central
Valley, there is broad support for these environmental protections and really
thousands, tens of thousands of jobs that depend on a healthy delta. So
this really is not a fish versus people. What it is,
is a challenging situation. Three years of drought has meant that water
supplies are short and in the midst of a drought, everyone's advocating for
their positions using whatever metaphors seem appropriate, but when we look at
where California gets its food, it is critically important that we sustain our
farms and our fisheries. Even despite three years of drought, and environmental
protections, California is going to have near record levels of tomato crops and
rice crops and numerous other crops. And indeed, we have really been able to
enjoy the bounty of California's farms throughout this drought and despite
environmental protections. There's one thing that has been missing from
California's dinner plates and that's locally caught wild salmon. And I think
all of us really feel that we should be able to have both salmon and broccoli,
or salmon and lettuce grown in California. And we can have both. JS: Doug Obegi. Now
because Fox News has only chosen to focus on the delta smelt as the culprit for
water reductions to some California farmers, Fox believes anyone who does
not support overturning the federal court order is anti-farming. In what
was supposed to appear as an effort by Fox's Sean Hannity
to hear the other side of the story, Hannity invited
Zeke Grader onto his show. Zeke is the Executive Director of the Institute for
Fisheries Resources and he was interviewed live via satellite. While Sean Hannity sat in front of a rally of farmers that Fox News
helped organize, Zeke Grader spoke to Hannity from
San Francisco. As
Zeke's location is announced to the crowd of farmers, you can hear the disdain
that so many Americans have for anything San Franciscan - a hatred that Fox
News is well known for promoting. Sean Hannity: In spite of the terrible,
terrible crisis facing this area, there are actually environmentalists out
there who are still defending this 2-inch minnow, and I'm joined by one of them
right now, on remote from San Francisco, California. Here is the Executive
Director of the Pacific Coast Federation of Fishermen's Association, Zeke
Grader. Zeke, I'm sitting here, and I'm meeting farmers that have farmed for generations,
and they can't farm any longer. I'm meeting farmers that want to work and
workers. This affects 38 million people, and they can't get the water, and you
going to tell these people that you're going to keep the water off to defend
this little delta smelt fish. Can you explain why? Zeke Grader:
Sean, I think what you have to realize is we're not just talking about the
delta smelt. We're also talking about salmon. These salmon are food, they
provide jobs for people. You need to come up and provide some balance here. I
want you to come up to the north coast, place to where I'm from Fort Bragg, not
where your studios are from Sean, or come to Eureka and you visit the
unemployed fishermen there and give this some balance. Because let me tell you,
the delta smelt will not cause a problem for those farmers. JS: In order to move beyond some of these
childish tactics of Fox News and to learn more about how this drought and other
factors have impacted California's salmon fishery, Deconstructing Dinner invited
Zeke Grader onto the show. He spoke to us from San Francisco. Zeke Grader: At
present there has been no commercial salmon fishery for the last two years. And
the reason for that was a steep decline in our production of Central Valley
salmon stocks. Now the Central Valley salmon come out of the Sacramento and San
Joaquin rivers. These rivers are fed by the Sierra snowpack and tributaries to
that and it basically creates the second largest salmon run at the Columbian
Snake system in the lower 48 States. So it's very important, I think it pales a
little bit in comparison to the Fraser River, but certainly is one of the West
Coast more important salmon production systems. What happens is that this
system comes in and meets the two rivers. They meet near Sacramento and the
delta. And this is probably the largest, combined with San Francisco Bay, the
largest estuary on the West Coast of North and South America. It's a very
large, historically very productive estuary, and the rivers meet there, and
they go through this estuary, the delta connected to San Francisco Bay, and
then the waters flow out the golden gate. And it's important not just for
salmon, but for the production of Dungeness crab, we have the largest Herring
fishery or at least did on the West Coast, south of British Columbia. And
historically, it was also a system that produces large amount of shrimp and
oysters. JS: While the area was once
productive habitat for Chinook salmon, much has changed in recent years, and
Zeke Grader explains. Zeke Grader: Inflow
to this estuary now is being diverted, most of it is
going south to provide for agriculture and the very arid area of the San
Joaquin Valley. But it has turned it into a major agriculture production area
and in some of the water also ends up in Southern California, some of it even
in the deserts to create golf courses of all things. This is the system these
salmon exist in, and what happens when too much water is taken out of this
system, the estuary itself begins collapsing and the salmon themselves can
become entrained, that is trapped in the pumps, or they become disoriented, the
young salmon which think they are moving west to the sea end up moving south to
these pumps because they go with the flow, and as a result their being lost.
So, we've seen in the past, particularly in the late 80s, early 90s, where
we've gone from record levels of salmon production as a result of some very wet
years, to very low levels of production when excessive amounts of water are
being pumped from this estuary. So what happens in the mid part of this
century, the mid part of this decade, I should say, the state and the federal
water agencies came forward with plans to take even more water, and in fact,
they did. We had record levels of pumping, and our salmon stocks as a result
just collapsed. Now, the federal government try to blame at first on ocean
conditions but ocean conditions couldn't explain it because it we had not see
salmon stocks from other rivers along our coast. The decline was nowhere as
extreme so it's pretty obvious that the flows were critical here. And of course
when the flows are removed it also creates higher concentrations of pollution.
There's a really problem with this system with those municipal and agricultural
pollution and when there are low flows, we don't have that dilution factor is
it becomes more deadly to the fish. Moreover, it tends to make the system much
more hospitable for invasive species, which can also then harm the native
salmon stock and other native fish. So, this has been the reason that in the
last two years, we didn't oppose the closing because there simply were no fish,
for us not having a fishery not just for California, but also Oregon lost most
of their fish as a result because about half of their production in a normal
year is based on these Central Valley salmon. JS: Zeke Grader of the Institute for
Fisheries Resources. Now despite the integral nature of the Chinook salmon to
the health of the delta ecosystem, Fox News has not provided much room at all
on their broadcasts to hear this side of this very complex story and instead
has stood by their message that the environmental protections of the fish are
the only reason why farmers are short on water. As heard earlier, Fox's Sean Hannity invited Zeke Grader onto his show and Zeke shares
with us, how that all began. Zeke Grader: Well,
it was a set up, I have to admit that I've never heard
of Sean Hannity because I never watch Fox News. I
watch Fox Sports but I had really basically ignored him. As far as I could tell
from a couple times I just surfed the channel, I could tell it was not news. It
was really just a far right wing shbiel coming out of
Rupert Murdoch's folks, and I was called and I asked, if it is going to
be an intelligent discussion, quiet no shouting, then we can talk about the
issues, I said I'd be glad to do that. In fact, that's what I was promised. Of
course, they didn't adhere to their promise when I saw what was going on as I
was in the studio waiting to what I thought was going to be interviewed. It was
pretty obvious that it was going to be a shouting match. What we were thinking
was a cat hanging is that I was brought in to be the villain of the night. I
guess that where Hannity and our governor and some of
the congressional people all sitting there with the big rally of folks that
they had stirred up in Fresno complaining about a 2-inch minnow causing them a
loss of jobs and loss of income and blaming it all on the delta smelt. And then
they had me there to try and defend the decisions that were made to provide at
least some water to prevent these fish from extinction, and with the crowd busy
shouting so it was not an interview. It turned out to be basically a shouting
match and I suggested to Hannity that he come and
visit these fishing communities and see what's happened to people that are out
of work where there is 100 percent unemployment because of what happened to the
salmon and of course he refused and I don't think he's got the courage to do
it. Sean Hannity: This is about farmers that are
starving, and you seem to care more about a 2-inch minnow than you do about
these people that have farmed for generations and you don't seem to have any
concern about them, why? I want to know why. Zeke Grader:
Sean, I care about them, but neither that 2-inch minnow nor those salmon caused
the problem. Now listen, and listen carefully Sean. There are probably about... Listen,
there's a drought this year and those very same growers are selling out their
water to Southern California. One of their companies there just made 77 million
dollars by selling their water to Southern California putting people in that Valley
out of work. Sean Hannity: Hey Zeke... Zeke Grader:
Don't tell me about the delta smelt, Sean. Sean Hannity: Hey Zeke, you're going to blame these farmers
because they don't have the water. That food feeds all of America. You're going
to look into the camera and blame them? Try to explain that one. Zeke Grader:
Sean, the problem is the delta smelt did not cause those water shortages.
Listen, and listen carefully because apparently the problem is... Sean Hannity: Wait a minute. The problem is
that the water has been turned off because environmental wackos
and extremists like you care more about fish than they do about people. And I
just want to know, how did you get your priorities so screwed up in life? What
happened to you? Jon Steinman: Fox News' Sean Hannity
interviewing Zeke Grader of the Institute for Fisheries Resources in September 2009. This
is Deconstructing Dinner - a syndicated weekly radio show and podcast produced in Nelson, British Columbia at Kootenay Co-op
Radio CJLY. I'm Jon Steinman. Today's broadcast is archived on-line at
deconstructingdinner.ca and posted under the November 12th 2009
episode. On
today's broadcast we're examining the severe drought that California has
incurred now for three years. With 41 percent of available water in the State
being used for agricultural purposes, clearly this drought will have impacts
and has on farmers and food production. But with 48 percent of that water going
to maintain the natural systems that existed long before water was first
diverted and exported, that already-significant reduction in water available to
local ecosystems has become even more dangerously low. As one of the many resulting
impacts, endangered species of fish have become at even greater risk. In 2007
and 2008, a Federal Court issued an order to reduce water exports to areas of
the San Joaquin Valley to protect the endangered delta smelt. Further
reductions came in 2009 to protect the endangered Chinook salmon, and any
further reductions to an already severe drought does leave an already shaky
agricultural community in an even more vulnerable position. But while everyone
should be seeking to stand behind farmers and support their challenges, this
issue is of course much bigger than just the plight of farmers. This
water crisis affects municipalities, fishermen, ecosystems and essentially is a
very complex and interconnected concern that raises a long list of questions
ranging from irrigation practices, to what food is being produced, to most
importantly, should an entire continent be reliant on one valley for 50 percent
of our fruits and vegetables. But
as heard in that last clip, American media like Fox News - a network who purports
to be "news," is only seeing
this as a single-issue. As heard earlier on the show, it appears that this
single-issue approach has become an opportunity for them, Fox News, as they do
so often, to criticize President Barack Obama. After all the court order to reduce water exports to
the Valley to protect these fish was a federal one. And when networks like Fox News allow themselves to
be exposed for such disregard for reliable information, there is one show that
has become a pretty ardent critic and that's The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart:
Surely environmentalists must be to blame here somewhere. Sean Hannity: This is what this comes down to,
no water for the farmers because of this fish, is that what it is? This fish here? Jon Stewart: By
the way be sure to check out Sean Hannity's new
children's book, one fish, two fish, red fish, boo boo
fish. Now, I assume the salient fact here is by drawing too much water from the
reservoir, salt water would come up river, destroying the habitat of that fish,
and that fish is important, right? Sean Hannity: They have all this water that
they're sending to the ocean rather than to the farms because of the little
delta smelt, this little 2-inch delta smelt fish. They're actually environmentalists
out there who are still defending this 2-inch minnow. You're going to keep the
water off to defend this little delta smelt fish? Jon Stewart:
Stupid small fish. Part of the stupid food chain.
Small things should never be preserved. You want to save the whales? Kill the
plankton and the krill then the whales will have more room. Jon Steinman: Jon Stewart wasted no time to do his own
comedic deconstructing of Sean Hannity's interview
with Zeke Grader. Jon
Stewart: Wait, if we destroy the lower remnant food chain,
larger fish may be hurt, which may hurt commercial fishermen who are all part
of hardworking Americans who want the government off their back. Who will speak
for them? Zeke
Grader: We're not just talking about the delta smelt, we're also talking about the salmon. These salmon are
food, they provide jobs for people. There's a drought this year. Jon
Stewart: Boo salmon boo. And boo you, the guy who wasn't
smart enough to get Sean Hannity to defend this
industry at the expense of a different industry. It just makes sense. Real
people eat food that's grown. But you and your fish, oh pardon me, do you
happen to have any frozen fish sticks? Jon Steinman: The Daily Show's Jon Stewart. As Fox
News clearly offered very little time to Zeke Grader to speak to the threats
that the drought has had on California's salmon fishery, here again is
Zeke speaking to Deconstructing Dinner. Zeke Grader:
Salmon populations here have historically encountered and survived droughts in
the past. We've had droughts sometimes that last nearly a decade. What made the
situation intolerable for the salmon is that we have these droughts, the
level of pumping, that is, the amount of water being diverted from the delta
and its tributary rivers and streams increases so that very seldom have we seen
agriculture take any real cuts in
water delivery. Instead, it's been the fish that has taken the hit. Now, there
has been a lot of things, obviously, that were put out on the Fox Network and a
great deal of misinformation out there about what's happened to agriculture,
but in fact, agriculture for the most part has gotten all of its water
deliveries and most of it, there has been very little in the way of cutbacks in
agriculture and in fact, this year in the Fresno area we had a record
production level of tomatoes for example. Where the problem has been is that in
California, they're under a water law is that the senior and junior water
rights holders basically has access to water when there is surplus available
and not used by the senior water rights holder. We have a number of these
junior water rights holders that are very well politically connected, that have
put in permanent crops such as the orchards and vineyards, which cannot be
fallowed during dry years, and the minute that they have been cutback in their
water they've been screaming. Well, they put these crops in knowing full well
that their water supply was tenuous. What's exacerbated the situation is we've
had some of these farmers that are getting this water that either had senior
water right's holders or those that were using ground water have turned around
and sold their water to Southern California developers including development
that are going into the Mojave Desert, building things such as golf
courses which makes absolutely no sense and so what's being put at risk by all
of this has been our coastal fishing communities and the fish themselves. Jon Steinman: Zeke Grader of the Institute for
Fisheries Resources. Also lending their voice to expand on these many issues
that are facing farmers and farm communities - issues that go beyond just the
environmental protections for endangered salmon and delta smelt, is Doug Obegi of the Natural Resources Defense Council. Doug Obegi: As an environmental group, NRDC is not really in
the best position to be able to recommend broad social policies to sustain
jobs, particularly outside of environmental concerns. But, it is worth noting
that three years of drought, global recession, a huge drop in housing
construction as a result of the foreclosure crisis and mortgage crisis, and
numerous other factors, even the drop in dairy prices and some commodity prices
dropping have all adversely affected farming. NRDC and many other environmental
groups really want to sustain farming in California. We may sometimes disagree
with how some farming practices are done, but I think we all recognize the
importance of farming in California, and maintaining healthy abundance of food
that's locally grown, sustaining local communities in terms of jobs, and
providing healthy benefits. No one wants to see huge tracks of new homes built
on former farmland. We want to sustain farming. But, that doesn't mean that
farming doesn't have to change and there are many global factors as well as
local factors that affects farming, and water certainly is a part of that, but
it's not the only thing. There may be some who want to blame everything on the
delta smelt. A realistic look at the picture, and indeed some of the more
recent economic data that's been done on the impacts of the drought and the
Endangered Species Act show that the impacts are not as severe as some may have
suggested. But by in large, the Endangered Species Act and protections for
salmon and delta smelt are not the cause of widespread unemployment across the large
swaths of California. Jon Steinman: With all of these factors affecting
Californian farmers having been ignored by Fox News again, comedian Jon
Stewart wasted no time to point out yet some more missed information, that is
that the water distribution system in California was designed decades ago, by
previous administrations, yet for Sean Hannity and
Fox News, the drought facing farmers today is solely the fault of Fox's enemy
number 1, Barack Obama. Jon Stewart: How
did he let his almost comically oversized head to the very real drought
problems that these farmers are facing? And you won't believe who figured out
who was to blame. Sean Hannity: There's a very, very simple
solution to the problem. Farmers want to work hard, they don't want a
government hand out, and we have a message to Washington tonight. Mr.
President, turn the water on now! Jon Stewart:
That is so racist! Oh, just because the president is black, you think you can
make it rain! Make it rain, Mr. President. So racist.
Sorry, what's that? I'm sorry, he blames the Government for not letting farmers
turn on water for their crops because of the drought conditions that have
lowered the reservoir levels. I see. The construction of that reservoir was
originally handed out in the Emergency Relief Appropriation Act of 1935. Do you
remember, it was authorized as part of the 1935 Singles Bill allocating 500
million dollars, "Trans-mountain water diversion and irrigation."
Or to put that in layman's terms, the government should stop meddling in the
business of the farmers who would actually be still living in the desert if not
for government meddling. History! History! History hurts my brain. Jon Steinman: The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Leading
us into another area of concern to "deconstruct" here on the show, was the
comment heard there of Fox's Sean Hannity demanding
that the U.S. Government, "turn the water on." This has been echoed on his show
throughout most of his coverage of the issue over the past few months. But is
the demand to, "turn the water on" accurate? Responding once again is Pete
Lucero of the United States Bureau of Reclamation. Pete Lucero: Well,
that's another somewhat of a misstatement. The pumps have been on, the pumps
are consistently on. We go through periods where we may have reduce to restrict
some of the pumping in 2009 there was maybe two days that we weren't able to
pump because we were in a situation where the delta smelt were at jeopardy and
we had to curtail pumping for a couple of days, but we will pump, typically,
every single day, may not be at full capacity but it'll be pumping. And so
since June 30th of this year, we have been pumping consistently at
practically full pumping capabilities at both ours and the State pumping
stations because the restrictions are only there during certain portions of the
year when the delta smelt are either coming in to the bay or leaving the bay and
when they're not in the vicinity of the pumps we don't have any restrictions
that are put upon us. So we have been consistently pumping, the mantra of turn on
the pumps, turn on the pumps. All you have to do is turn on the pumps is really
not the actual problem here. The problem as we would have to describe it for
those who say that is, is that those pumps may not be running at full capacity
because of the delta smelt, but we are required by law to protect the delta
smelt. It's not an arbitrary thing for us, it's not
something we can do different. We are required to do certain actions as a
result of the Endangered Species Act. Jon Steinman: Again, despite the situation as Pete
Lucero describes, Fox News continues to spread information like this. Ainsley Earhardt: Well,
they took it to court and by law because the delta smelt is an endangered
species, the delta smelt had to be protected so the pumps were completely shut
off. Farmers were left without any water to their land. Sean Hannity: Unemployment is now near 40
percent. Please turn this water on now. Jon Steinman: And if all else fails and Fox viewers
are not convinced that Obama is to blame for the
drought, Fox News can always pull out some good old fear-mongering. Ainsley Earhardt: The
farmers out are saying that the government is choosing fish over families.
Without the water of course the farm land is drying up, there are no crops, no
jobs for the farmers, and that affects you in the grocery store. Soon you could
be getting your produce from other countries, from South America or from China,
and of course that's a safety issue. Jon Steinman: Now, in spreading this food safety fear
of food imports, Fox News has conveniently forgotten that California
itself is already a hotbed for food safety concerns such as this collage of clips compiled by Deconstructing Dinner here. Female: We
are beginning tonight with a salmonellosis scare and
health officials warning consumers not to eat certain brands of Central coast
spinach. This all comes after a routine task to detect Salmonella in the
spinach. Male:
This morning in Pender Produce in Dickson, California, they were taking
pistachios off the shelves; they came from the Setton
Pistachio Plant in Central California and may be tainted with Salmonella. Male: If
you are immune compromised, young or old, it could be deadly. Male: The
nuts have been distributed across the country and could be in dozens of
product. Male: Food
and Drug Administration has expanded the list of foods it's looking into as
possible culprits in a Salmonella outbreak that has sickened nearly 950
Americans. Begin with a recall of locally grown Romaine lettuce. Female: Dale,
the lettuce was sold by Ag Giant Tanimura and Antle, the company has recalled 22,000 cartons of its bulk
or wrapped Romaine lettuce. Male: Consumer
alert for you, a parsley recall to tell you about, we're Muranaka
Farm Incorporated, a company out of California is recalling its parsley because
it may be contaminated by Salmonella. The company is voluntarily recalling 1,005
cases of 60-count fresh bunched parsley after sampling showed Salmonella. Jon Steinman: And if it's not food safety concerns
that Fox News can use to challenge the President they love to hate why not
bring on a guest who can make the links between drought, 9/11, and terrorists. Male: As
mayor for eight years, I've worked with Homeland Security after 9/11. One of
the things we were charged with by the federal government was to work together
locally to protect the water supply to farming communities so they can continue
to provide food for the nation. Now, if you were to have told me that water
would have stopped, I would have believed maybe Al Qaeda struck but not
the federal government. Jon Steinman: Despite the sheer
misinformation and fear mongering being communicated through U.S. media like
Fox News and their sister paper the Wall Street Journal, Doug Obegi of the Natural Resources Defense Council remains
optimistic that California can attend to the water crisis affecting the State,
and by extension affecting the reliance all of North America has on California
food. He speaks of the legislation passed the day we interviewed him, that
increased protections for California's watershed. Doug Obegi: The State legislation that we enacted that the
legislature passed today was supported by a very unlikely coalition of allies
of farmers and urban water agencies, businesses, and some environmental groups
like the Natural Resources Defense Council. Despite this broad coalition,
despite by-partisan support, we're able to strengthen existing laws in the
delta and strengthen environmental laws so that we make sure we're protecting
the environment. And I think it shows a broad support for not weakening our environmental
laws, but instead redoubling our efforts to be able to sustain species and
sustain quality of life. What Californians are most known for are; our healthy
economy, our abundant fisheries, our beautiful open spaces while still meeting
our water supply needs. And I do strongly believe in that vision and I believe
that we're getting on the right track. It will be difficult as we come out of
drought and hopefully next year will be a wet year and it'll be difficult given
the State budget situation and the recession. But, I have no doubt that
California will reinvent itself and come out of this crisis stronger and I hope
that we will have abundant salmon fisheries and in a year or two, we'll be able
to eat salmon and local broccoli. JS: Doug Obegi - A
Staff Attorney of the Natural Resources Defense Council. Also a thanks to Pete Lucero of the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation
and Zeke Grader of the Institute For Fisheries Resources who both lent their
voice to today's broadcast. Unheard audio of our guests today is archived on-line at
deconstructingdinner.ca and posted under the November 12th 2009
episode. (a remix of soundbites from this
episode) ending
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